Israel / Gaza / Lebanon / Iran War Thread

[Beechwood_S6]

7 minutes ago, El Cid said:

The Israeli pharmaceutical company Teva, which specialises in generic drugs, is the “leading supplier of prescription drugs in the Irish market”. For most Teva products there are alternatives if you ask your pharmacist – if there is no alternative, just remember Nelson Mandela’s maxim that “a boycott is a tactic, not a principle”. Sudocrem, for many years thought of as a quintessentially Irish brand, was bought out by Teva in 2016. Not long after, it announced that it was closing its Irish factory and relocating to Bulgaria.

 

Jaffa oranges were famous for centuries before Israel colonised the Palestinian name along with the city of Yafa. The Israeli agricultural companies Mehadrin (Jaffa) and Carmel-Agrexco export fruit and vegetables for sale to Europe. Much of this produce is grown on confiscated Palestinian land in the Jordan Valley. Apart from oranges, other examples of fruit exported by these, and other, companies are grapefruits, peppers, avocados, grapes, figs, and passion and sharon fruits.

 

Dead Sea beauty products come in many brands including, Ahava, Dead Sea Magik, GADI21, -417, VivO, Nevo and Sea Spa Skincare. YesTo, formerly an Israel-based company which has since ‘relocated’ to the US, uses Dead Sea minerals in many of its products. They can be found in Holland & Barrett, Nourish and pharmacies. In addition they are often marketed by on stalls at large shopping centres.

Most Stanley/Black&Decker Toolboxes and plastic organisers are made in Israel. Plastic saw horses are also often available.

Keter exports a wide range of large plastic products from Israel. These include shelf storage bins, garden sheds, outdoor storage boxes, dog kennels and composting bins.

 

Palram is an Israel-based manufacturer of Polycarbonate and PVC products such as greenhouses, roofing, gazebos and sheds.

Lees Carpets are made by the Israeli company Carmel Carpets in the illegal industrial settlement zone of Barkan in the West Bank.

Sodastream, an appliance for home-making carbonated drinks is a product that was previously manufactured in the illegal Israeli settlement of Ma’ale Adumim in occupied Palestine. It now operates from the Naqab (Negev) area in the Apartheid State of Israel.

Dates from Israel come in many brands and are particularity prominent during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan where they can be found in many halal shops. Israeli new potatoes are often seen in the spring before Irish potatoes are available. Carrots are also exported from Israel.

 

Thanks i'll add them to my Xmas shop 👍 we'll probably need a new carpet in a year or two.

[Gormenghast]

16 minutes ago, El Cid said:

The Israeli pharmaceutical company Teva, which specialises in generic drugs, is the “leading supplier of prescription drugs in the Irish market”. For most Teva products there are alternatives if you ask your pharmacist – if there is no alternative, just remember Nelson Mandela’s maxim that “a boycott is a tactic, not a principle”. Sudocrem, for many years thought of as a quintessentially Irish brand, was bought out by Teva in 2016. Not long after, it announced that it was closing its Irish factory and relocating to Bulgaria.

 

Jaffa oranges were famous for centuries before Israel colonised the Palestinian name along with the city of Yafa. The Israeli agricultural companies Mehadrin (Jaffa) and Carmel-Agrexco export fruit and vegetables for sale to Europe. Much of this produce is grown on confiscated Palestinian land in the Jordan Valley. Apart from oranges, other examples of fruit exported by these, and other, companies are grapefruits, peppers, avocados, grapes, figs, and passion and sharon fruits.

 

Dead Sea beauty products come in many brands including, Ahava, Dead Sea Magik, GADI21, -417, VivO, Nevo and Sea Spa Skincare. YesTo, formerly an Israel-based company which has since ‘relocated’ to the US, uses Dead Sea minerals in many of its products. They can be found in Holland & Barrett, Nourish and pharmacies. In addition they are often marketed by on stalls at large shopping centres.

Most Stanley/Black&Decker Toolboxes and plastic organisers are made in Israel. Plastic saw horses are also often available.

Keter exports a wide range of large plastic products from Israel. These include shelf storage bins, garden sheds, outdoor storage boxes, dog kennels and composting bins.

 

Palram is an Israel-based manufacturer of Polycarbonate and PVC products such as greenhouses, roofing, gazebos and sheds.

Lees Carpets are made by the Israeli company Carmel Carpets in the illegal industrial settlement zone of Barkan in the West Bank.

Sodastream, an appliance for home-making carbonated drinks is a product that was previously manufactured in the illegal Israeli settlement of Ma’ale Adumim in occupied Palestine. It now operates from the Naqab (Negev) area in the Apartheid State of Israel.

Dates from Israel come in many brands and are particularity prominent during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan where they can be found in many halal shops. Israeli new potatoes are often seen in the spring before Irish potatoes are available. Carrots are also exported from Israel.

 

 

Not forgetting, of course, the relatively recent natural gas fields a few miles off the Israeli coast, serviced by an enormous platform (the Leviathan) and at least one other, that may soon be (if not already doing so) exporting the excess to other countries. I think it's a big source of income for them.

[Gormenghast]

https://images.app.goo.gl/ntzEFFp6XZA9m2df7

 

There you go...

[Tony]

BDS really is just playground politics. Virtue signalling at best.  There's a massive dollop of hubris dripping from anyone who imagines that Israel will stop beating Hamas / Hezbollah / Houthi / IRGC terrorists or that Netanyahu will resign because Sheffield Uni doesn't buy Jaffa oranges. They don't consider that regular Israeli citizens who have democratic power over the Israeli government will actually resent far off well-meaning but ultimately silly people who intend to take food off their children's plate. 

 

I mean, really? Really?

[cressida]

• The US has urged Israel to ensure the safety of UN peacekeepers in Lebanon, after Israel fired on UN bases in the south of the country

• On Thursday, two peacekeepers were wounded when an Israeli tank fired on UN facilities in the south

• Two more peacekeepers were injured in a separate explosion earlier - the IDF says it's investigating how it happened

• Meanwhile, rescue workers are searching through rubble after two Israeli air strikes hit central Beirut on Thursday

• Lebanon's prime minister says the 22 people killed in the attacks, which came with no warning, were all civilians. Another 117 people were injured. Israel has not commented

• Elsewhere, the IDF says it detected around 100 rockets crossing from Lebanon into northern Israel within the space of half an hour

[Tony]

It's amazing how a few facts about terrorists can kill a thread stone dead.  😉

 

Moving on and unusually for me, here's some speculation. Well informed speculation but it is very welcome if true. 

 

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Hezbollah running out of money amid Israeli bombardment

Lebanese militia Hezbollah is running out of money, researchers tell VOA, as a weekslong Israeli offensive against the Iran-backed group disrupts three of its key sources of cash.

 

U.S. and Lebanon-based researchers and U.S. Treasury Department reports identify Hezbollah’s main cash source as Al-Qard al-Hasan, or AQAH, a Lebanese quasi-banking institution operated by the U.S.-designated terror group without a government banking license. The researchers say the group’s other cash sources include Lebanon’s insolvent but licensed commercial banks and arrivals of cash-bearing planes at Beirut’s airport.

 

The Israeli military escalated its attacks on Hezbollah leaders and facilities last month, after 11 months of limiting its responses to the militia’s daily attacks on northern Israel in support of Hamas. The Palestinian terror group, also backed by Iran, invaded southern Israel from Gaza last October, sparking a fierce Israeli response.

 

 

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hezbollah-said-in-financial-crisis-unable-to-pay-members-due-to-israeli-offensive/

 

In a  similar vein, you'd imagine that the Qataris are less keen than they were on sheltering and funding the devious billionaire Hamas terrorists who are living the high life in downtown Doha. 

 

Stop funding terrorism! 

[Bamanamanana]

42 minutes ago, Tony said:

In a  similar vein, you'd imagine that the Qataris are less keen than they were on sheltering and funding the devious billionaire Hamas terrorists who are living the high life in downtown Doha. 

 

Stop funding terrorism! 

 

Inside the Israeli Plan That Propped Up Hamas:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/world/middleeast/israel-qatar-money-prop-up-hamas.html 🙄

[Tony]

8 minutes ago, Bamanamanana said:

 

Inside the Israeli Plan That Propped Up Hamas:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/world/middleeast/israel-qatar-money-prop-up-hamas.html 🙄

 

Yes, the Israeli government got that very wrong didn't they?  The lesson for the Israelis and the rest of us is to not trust the death cult terrorists - they lie. 

 

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The payments were part of a string of decisions by Israeli political leaders, military officers and intelligence officials — all based on the fundamentally flawed assessment that Hamas was neither interested in nor capable of a large-scale attack. The Times has previously reported on intelligence failures and other faulty assumptions that preceded the attacks.

 

Even as the Israeli military obtained battle plans for a Hamas invasion and analysts observed significant terrorism exercises just over the border in Gaza, the payments continued. For years, Israeli intelligence officers even escorted a Qatari official into Gaza, where he doled out money from suitcases filled with millions of dollars.

 

 

 

As do the Qataris.

 

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“Any attempt to cast a shadow of uncertainty about the civilian and humanitarian nature of Qatar’s contributions and their positive impact is baseless,” a Qatari official said in a statement.

 

 

 

For their part Israel does seem to have learned a terrible lesson. We read that Israel's military have made it known that they will shoot down aircraft coming from Iran into Lebanon which they believe to be carrying funds or equipment for Hezbollah. The Iranians have taken note and stopped.

 

There is no point in being nice to terrorists, they just bank our naïve generosity and weaponise it against us. Let's hope to god that Lammy is not being allowed to be fooled.

[mafya]

12 hours ago, Tony said:

 

Yes, the Israeli government got that very wrong didn't they?  The lesson for the Israelis and the rest of us is to not trust the death cult terrorists - they lie. 

 

 

 

 

As do the Qataris.

 

 

 

 

For their part Israel does seem to have learned a terrible lesson. We read that Israel's military have made it known that they will shoot down aircraft coming from Iran into Lebanon which they believe to be carrying funds or equipment for Hezbollah. The Iranians have taken note and stopped.

 

There is no point in being nice to terrorists, they just bank our naïve generosity and weaponise it against us. Let's hope to god that Lammy is not being allowed to be fooled.

Terrorists according to who?

Wasnt Nelson Mandela once branded a terrorist?

If israel didn’t steal others land there would be no need for groups like Hamas orHezbollah would they?

Israel is a rogue state backed up by the USA and has shown the world what kind of state it is, genocide can not be justified as a form of self defence.

I think Hezbollah is not a spent force but are actually showing restraint as they did by targeting the military base instead of civilians like the Israelis do.

I wonder if the citizens of Israel feel more safer or more scared due to Netanyahu s actions?

[Al Bundy]

1 hour ago, mafya said:

Terrorists according to who?

Wasnt Nelson Mandela once branded a terrorist?

If israel didn’t steal others land there would be no need for groups like Hamas orHezbollah would they?

Israel is a rogue state backed up by the USA and has shown the world what kind of state it is, genocide can not be justified as a form of self defence.

I think Hezbollah is not a spent force but are actually showing restraint as they did by targeting the military base instead of civilians like the Israelis do.

I wonder if the citizens of Israel feel more safer or more scared due to Netanyahu s actions?

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