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Dropping in to ask people to not get personal, and to debate the subject.   This is a very nuanced and emotive topic, with a lot of history and complexities on all sides. You've done well so far, but please don't let it degrade to arguing or shutting each other down.   Remember, not all support for palestine is support for the terrorist group Hamas or the horrific events of 7th October. Likewise, not all criticism of Israel is anti-semetic, and not all support for the militar
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A glancing blow with a dictionary puts that notion right. 

 

 

 

genocide
/ˈdʒɛnəsʌɪd/
noun
 
  1. the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.
 
melodrama
/ˈmɛləˌdrɑːmə/
noun
 
  1. 1.
    a sensational dramatic piece with exaggerated characters and exciting events intended to appeal to the emotions.
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1 hour ago, Al Bundy said:

Again, stop with the melodramatics, I can't recall anyone cheering about it on here.

 

Why do you think most of the Western World ( in your words) looks away?  Do you think there maybe a reason for this...do you not ask yourself why you might be in the minority then?

 

Everyone except the death cults in the Middle East looks away too. That Egyptian border is staying locked shut to Palestinians. Nobody is arranging a seaborne evacuation. Nobody is offering asylum to Hamas, Hezbollah or even regular Palestinians.

 

How weird. Makes one wonder what Egypt, Jordan, Saudi, UAE, etc have against supposedly oppressed Palestinian brothers and sisters.

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13 minutes ago, Tony said:

 

Everyone except the death cults in the Middle East looks away too. That Egyptian border is staying locked shut to Palestinians. Nobody is arranging a seaborne evacuation. Nobody is offering asylum to Hamas, Hezbollah or even regular Palestinians.

 

How weird. Makes one wonder what Egypt, Jordan, Saudi, UAE, etc have against supposedly oppressed Palestinian brothers and sisters.

They don't want to be bombed by Israel.

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5 hours ago, The_DADDY said:

My bold

Think or hope?

Be honest.

 

Underlined. 

The 'man's' a vile creature. He needs removing. 

 

From what I have read Hezbollah are not as weak as Hamas and it’s what I think after reading up about their last war with Israel.

Netanyahoo is a dangerous war criminal

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33 minutes ago, rogets said:

 

Stop asking awkward questions

 

Its causing controversy

 

1 hour ago, Al Bundy said:

Why would Israel bomb Egypt, Jordan, Saudi or the UAE if they offered to house Palestinians?

Israel wouldn't let the Palestinians through to Egypt,  closed off Rafah.  

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8 minutes ago, cressida said:

 

Israel wouldn't let the Palestinians through to Egypt,  closed off Rafah.  

 

Some people have done a good job at spreading that version of events. Israel has certainly secured the crossing against terrorist movement but it's Egypt's choice to deny genuine refugee exit.

 

Egyptians don't want Palestinians in Egypt because Hamas is an arm of the Muslim Brotherhood Islamist death cult which has been terrorising Egyptians for decades.  Same goes for Jordan, Saudi, UAE, Iraq... even Lebanon!

 

There is a big question about deradicalizing the Palestinian population when Hamas and Hezbollah have been destroyed. It will be the equivalent of denazifying Germany after WW2 but it needs doing or they will forever be barred entry to other places and the modern world in general. 

 

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In October 2023 with the start of the 2023 Israel–Hamas war, the crossing was again effectively sealed. Various sources reported that for several weeks, the Egyptian government had refused to allow either Gazans or foreign nationals to exit Gaza via the Rafah crossing,[55][56] despite intensive international efforts to secure a window of time for the Rafah crossing to open to foreigners who want to exit the Strip.[57][58][59] However, the Egyptian government, maintains that it has always kept the Rafah Border Crossing open for humanitarian aid coming in and foreign nationals coming out during the Israel–Hamas war, instead blaming four consecutive Israeli air strikes on the Gazan side for keeping the border crossing closed.[60][56] 

On 21 October, the border opened for humanitarian aid to enter Gaza.[61] 

On 1 November, a limited number of foreign nationals and wounded began being allowed to use the crossing to exit Gaza.[62]

 

The crossing was seized by Israel in 2024 during the Rafah offensive.[63] In reply Egypt closed off the crossing and rejected an Israeli proposal to coordinate the reopening of the Rafah border crossing insisting that the crossing should be managed only by Palestinian authorities. [64

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafah_Border_Crossing

 


 

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