Israel / Gaza / Lebanon / Iran War Thread

[Al Bundy]

Just now, banjodeano said:

Because its just a tool to shut down debate..any criticism and your an antisemite 

The irony!!!!

 

Brilliant.

[banjodeano]

1 minute ago, Al Bundy said:

State of that post.

 

Genocide appeasers...good grief, grow up will you.

 

 

 

 

 

Excellent post..Good grief I can't debate with such wisdom 

[Al Bundy]

Just now, banjodeano said:

Excellent post..Good grief I can't debate with such wisdom 

Thanks.

 

👍

[Tony]

1 hour ago, El Cid said:

 

I generally don't like the anti-BBC memes, but the BBC and other media outlets don't seem neutral. They parrot what the Israeli government tells them with little scrutiny.

Many countries at 'war', such as Israel give out propaganda, but Israel was not at war, until they escalated matters by bombing their neighbouring countries.

 

Before arriving at that conclusion it's wise to ask about the provenance and accuracy of the central claim against Israel - that they have killed tens of thousands of innocent people. So for example;

Who makes that claim?

Is the claim accurate?

Why do they make that claim?

Who is served by that claim?

Who benefits  from that claim? 

What are the objectives of the claimants?

 

There are two key parts to the claim which each have their own subset of evidence to verify.

A. 41k killed, and

B. innocent people.

 

A typical first port of call might be to seek out independent media reports on the ground. You won't be able to do that though because:

1. Israel takes in independent journalists under escort.

2. Hamas don't allow independent journalists in at all.

 

So we go back to the veracity questions and only a real mug (accidental or deliberate) would believe the central claim without truly independent verification. If we can't verify claims we must not full our knowledge gaps with emotions. Lives depend on it. 

[Baz1]

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/wZWxHB4EBMZp6bCE/

 

Great point 👏