Bellatrix Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 1 hour ago, lavery549@yahoo said: Yes , I am a Witch & believe , but I didn't take what you said in a sensitive way ☺️ You should subscribe to Hellebore. It's a brilliant magazine. I bet you'd like it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gormenghast Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 4 minutes ago, Slighty batty said: 25 ingredients! Are you Yotam Ottolenghi ?? No, SB, that was a cunning plan to get Padders to reply, so I could tell him it was a deliberate mistake, it should have said 2.5 ingredients. You were quicker than him though... 🤣🤣🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redruby Posted October 10 Author Share Posted October 10 47 minutes ago, Bellatrix said: Where have I said that you've disagreed with that? In fact, I explicitly acknowledged as much in this post: What does it matter that it's a con?! Of course it matters! This isn't just poor grieving people seeking comfort from those who have no moral qualms about telling them what they desperately want to hear, even if it's made-up bull****. It's parents being preyed on by parasites, telling them that their murdered children are alive and working at strip clubs, that they've been trafficked overseas, that they've forgotten about their parents; giving them hope based on terrible lies when their children are dead in a gutter somewhere. Or telling parents that their kidnapped children are dead, extinguishing all hope, when they're still alive and waiting to be found. It's utterly despicable. Those are extreme examples. As you know. It’s a bit claiming all members of a recognised religion are extremists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellatrix Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 (edited) 15 minutes ago, redruby said: Those are extreme examples. As you know. So some mediums using cold reading techniques to lie to grieving people are fine and others aren't. It's the enormity of the lie and the con you care about, not that people are being lied to and conned, or the fact that a realisation of being lied to and conned will likely have a devastating effect whatever the nature of the lie and the con. You should read the article I linked to in my earlier post. It describes, amongst other things, the hurt and deflation people feel after consulting a medium and realising that the information they've been given is nonsense. 15 minutes ago, redruby said: It’s a bit claiming all members of a recognised religion are extremists. Only if all members of that religion are using their religion to con people, just as, as you've acknowledged, all mediums do. Edited October 10 by Bellatrix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfifes Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 58 minutes ago, Bellatrix said: So some mediums using cold reading techniques to lie to grieving people are fine and others aren't. It's the enormity of the lie and the con you care about, not that people are being lied to and conned, or the fact that a realisation of being lied to and conned will likely have a devastating effect whatever the nature of the lie and the con. You should read the article I linked to in my earlier post. It describes, amongst other things, the hurt and deflation people feel after consulting a medium and realising that the information they've been given is nonsense. Only if all members of that religion are using their religion to con people, just as, as you've acknowledged, all mediums do. Extremist members of religions sometimes radicalise people who go on to do terrible things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavery549@yahoo Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 2 hours ago, Bellatrix said: You should subscribe to Hellebore. It's a brilliant magazine. I bet you'd like it. OOOOOO interesting , may just have to have a look for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hauxwell Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 14 hours ago, Anna B said: I was impressed by the overall down to earth kindness and acceptance within the group as a whole. At last a small informal church without the male dominated hierarchy and cant of some of the bigger churches. I've always believed that being spiritual is different to being religious; whatever floats your boat, so I have to agree whole heartedly with your last paragraph Hauxwell I agree Anna, although I didn’t enjoy the service I did find the people who go to the church friendly and welcoming. I also went with my relative to a fund raising coffee morning for the church, there was very little talk about religion that morning, but there was a nice atmosphere. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavery549@yahoo Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 I have to say ,there are some so called Mediums that are complete fakes , & that is not fair because they choose people who are vulnerable . Not on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavery549@yahoo Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 I am an Empath Witch , I feel what people are feeling . I have always got on with certain people on the ward , the addicts , the ones going through pain . I sometimes , hear someone contacting me when I am just waking up , be it a cry for help , someone I know , but I have switched off for a long time , There was someone on here that I felt pain from recently . It's hard sometimes , & I have to block , otherwise I can't function . I would never , intrude , or make money out of other peoples suffering , but I will be there for them . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavery549@yahoo Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 Do you know what , Spirit World , doesn't follow science , & the problem is , some people will run away if they ever saw a Ghost . They can't put them in a box . If they don't want to show , then they won't . Look at the ridiculous Most Haunted , so daft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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