Nigel Farage ‘genuinely concerned for his safety’ as Lee Anderson reveals death threat fears

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1 minute ago, cressida said:

We don't know if any immigrants are nutters until they do a crime,  we don't seem to know their history.

Farage is right to be concerned.

 

We do because of criminal history is recorded and shared. 

 

The issue lies in the nature of the crime and how long ago.

 

Unfortunately this isn't Minority Report

[XboxMan2024]

6 minutes ago, The_DADDY said:

My bold

He's a politician,  he lies like they all do so you could be right however my opinion on is the same either way. We are simply allowing too many people in. Like I say, it's unsustainable. If you think different then that's fine. I have no problem with that but I feel more needs to be done to stop the influx and manage it properly. 

To be honest I have little to no sympathy for the man, I still think he should be doing Porridge at His Majesty's pleasure for his part in all that racially motivated riots nonsense back in August.

 

[The_DADDY]

Just now, Delayed said:

 

So what you are after is more enforcement actiom.

 

Which means more funding for boots on the ground to get this person out as soon as he has no legal right to be here. 

 

Checks are done but removal doesn't happen quickly enough 

 

Yes. I'd like to see much more enforcement and far quicker removals. Id like the decent immigrants to stay,  we need them in the grand scheme of things but I want the dangerous, rapey, stabby, criminal types sent back yet hardly any are. 

[cressida]

Just now, Delayed said:

 

We do because of criminal history is recorded and shared. 

 

The issue lies in the nature of the crime and how long ago.

 

Unfortunately this isn't Minority Report

I read that immigrants can tear their papers up,  we need to at least know the name of everyone who comes in to the country.

[ECCOnoob]

14 minutes ago, The_DADDY said:

My bold 

I agree. So let's vet people properly. I've absolutely no problem with immigration. Never have. However this unchecked mass migration we are seeing is unsustainable and we've no idea who many of them are. Do it properly, get them citizenship but don't let the dangerous criminal types in. Get them gone.

 

Why do people come out with these things as if somehow all so simple. These people don't rock up with a giant badge around their neck saying I am a convicted criminal from Algeria. 

 

So say our illegal immigrant manages to bypass our borders and wash up on a beach completely undetected by any authorities. They get found wandering around some village on the Kent coast.  They eventually get picked up by police.  They dont speak a word of English. They don't have a single piece of official paperwork.  Their fingerprints are not showing up on any official databases....

So . Just where exactly are we supposed to "get them gone" too?  We don't just shove them back to France to make them magically disappear.  We don't just leave them to aimlessly wander around like a feral dog until they starve.

 

Even for the ones we do know about and document, it's not so simple to just shove them on a plane.  There are entire legal processes and jurisdictional hurdles to overcome.

 

It's funny how there are entire government agencies and specialist international committees who have been trying to solve this complex crisis out for decades and yet speak to any average white working-class male who has a taste for reading certain types of newspaper and they miraculously are all masters in immigration law and conventions and just spew out all these perfect easy solutions for how it can be allegedly resolved so simply...... Hmmm.  

[The_DADDY]

1 minute ago, Delayed said:

 

We do because of criminal history is recorded and shared. 

 

The issue lies in the nature of the crime and how long ago.

 

Unfortunately this isn't Minority Report

My bold.

I'd argue that's in the minority of cases. It's well known that the dodgy one are prone to 'losing their passports and id' so if they turn up with no id then unless their finger prints/DNA are on file somewhere we genuinely have no clue who they are. 

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1 minute ago, cressida said:

I read that immigrants can tear their papers up,  we need to at least know the name of everyone who comes in to the country.

 

Biometrics solve that problem 

[m williamson]

Complete BS,  Farage is a self serving con artist who is brilliant at extracting money for not doing the job he was paid to do.

He attended one out of 42 committee meetings he was supposed to attend as the UK representative when we were EU members. Didn't have any problem drawing the salary and continuing to draw the pension though.

As someone who spent an entire working life in the private sector I have nothing but contempt for that type of behaviour, obtaining money by false pretences is theft, yet appears to be widespread in the public sector.

 

Threats from idiots are part and parcel of any high profile job. They are usually nonsense issued by people with mental problems. There are of course the exceptions to that where the threat is real. That's part of the job which everyone is aware of.

Anyone contemplating any job who has any sense whatsoever takes into consideration the risk involved. Work with electricity, work at heights, work in confined spaces etc? Don't then turn round and say " I can't do that it might be dangerous ". You chose the job, deal with it.

Farage chose to get involved with politics, not only that, he chose to be a loud mouthed controversial antagonistic gobshyte. 

 

This is nothing but an excuse to draw a salary and not do the job.      Nigel Farage's modus operandi.

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, The_DADDY said:

My bold.

I'd argue that's in the minority of cases. It's well known that the dodgy one are prone to 'losing their passports and id' so if they turn up with no id then unless their finger prints/DNA are on file somewhere we genuinely have no clue who they are. 

Fingerprint and DNA are held and shared 

[The_DADDY]

Just now, Delayed said:

Fingerprint and DNA are held and shared 

I accept that however who's to say most of these migrants are even on a database? If they mostly are then I'm happy to change my opinion on that but I think it's unlikely they are.