bellis Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 now thats just silly you can hardly compare a bus stop to a bar:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 There was something in the news about the government considering a ban in all public buildings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nu_Skillz Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 Smoking in pubs i agree should be restricted/baned or at the very least smokers need to be more conciderate for others and think twice befor lighting up in crowded places. i am a smoker and have been for a good many years now, and information about passive smoking is a relativly new phenominon. the evidence for passive smoking is based on the fact that there is toxins in cigarettes that could/can harm or kill humans. but cant the same be said for factorys, Chimneys, fires, car exaust and the like? with all the Polutants & carcenogenics that are in the air from factorys, fires, car exaust ect, it annoys me when they try to make out that passive smoking has any relivence to people dropping dead from heart deseise, lung cancer and the likes. A cigarette is 2" long and takes about 3 minuets to burn out. the ammount of toxins released in to the air from cigarrettes is irelivent compared to the ammount of toxins pumped in to the air from the millions of cars that are on our roads. so to use passave smoking as an excuse to ban smoking in public is ludacris, as it would be if you were to stop people driving in public places for fear or 'Passave Car Fumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 Originally posted by Nu_Skillz so to use passave smoking as an excuse to ban smoking in public is ludacris, as it would be if you were to stop people driving in public places for fear or 'Passave Car Fumes. How about using the BMJ's own study the conclusion of which included the following: Studies based on reports of smoking in a partner alone seem to underestimate the risks of exposure to passive smoking. The report can be found here: BMJ Report Note the word underestimate in the quote, the consequences of passive smoking are worse than first thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igm1 Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 I completely disagree that smoking should be banned in pubs. I mean if you dislike smoke that much then don't go to a pub! Pubs are just about the only public indoor places where you are allowed to smoke! Plus you can have smoking and non smoking areas in pubs so wheres the problem. You should be free to smoke really. (btw I don't smoke ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 Sigh, this is a tirewd old argument now, but.... Smokers account for only 1 in 4 of the adult population. Don't you think it's about time that the smokers found somewhere else to go to carry out their noxious minority habit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eltel Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 After visiting ireland recently, it was a pleasure to have a drink in any pub and not have smoke wafting around. I found that most of the Irish had now got used to the new banning laws and would not want to revert to allowing smoking in pubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nu_Skillz Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 I mean if you dislike smoke that much then don't go to a pub! why should it just be the non smokers who have to go out of there way,,smokers should be more courtious and not smoke round people who dont. it would be better is if there were bothe smoking and non-smoking as well as the mixed smoking pubs their already is. everyones happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoopyLou Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 I think the best thing here is for market forces to make the decisions rather than a nanny state government. If a few of the bigger chain pubs 'tested' non-smoking outlets to see how they affected business. i.e. if takings were down then people like to smoke in pubs, if takings are up, it's because people flocked to a non-smoking environment. in time, business would go the way of the money!! and people will have had their choice! at some point in time, if smoking pubs were in the minority, (pubs that allowed smoking, not ones on fire!!!), then they could still turn a profit with the die-hards that remain having to go there due to lack of choice. some capitalist theory in there some where, but a bit of the old liberals aswell!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mer1002 Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 "now thats just silly you can hardly compare a bus stop to a bar" Im not being silly its still smoke being blown in my face no matter where it is...and i dont like it ..... Doesnt bother me in the pub too much but when its directly been blown into your face thats annoying!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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