owdlad Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 Seems as if alls not well with the ban in Ireland. See this http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=518&ncid=732&e=3&u=/ap/20040707/ap_on_re_eu/ireland_smoking_pub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 Originally posted by owdlad Seems as if alls not well with the ban in Ireland. See this http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=518&ncid=732&e=3&u=/ap/20040707/ap_on_re_eu/ireland_smoking_pub A major insurrection is underway, by 1 pub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimsid2000 Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 Originally posted by owdlad Seems as if alls not well with the ban in Ireland. See this http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=518&ncid=732&e=3&u=/ap/20040707/ap_on_re_eu/ireland_smoking_pub I hope the landlords concerned get a stiff fine for what they are doing to make an example of them. If they get away with it it will be the thin end of the wedge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimsid2000 Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 Originally posted by Sanderson i agree in theory, but by banning smoking in all public places, such as pubs would be against our rights would it not?? What rights are these exactly? Show me where it says you can smoke anywhere you like and to hell with others. I don't know of any such right in English law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 Well a new MORI poll has resulted in 64% wanting smoking to be banned in public places. The days of smoking in public are very definitely numbered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojoworking Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 Originally posted by Agent Dan However, I believe my right to poison myself is still a right. (right?) There speaks the voice of a true nicotine addict! Defensive and self-righteous, as always Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buck Posted July 9, 2004 Author Share Posted July 9, 2004 That's OK Draggletail, I'll stay here and enjoy warm summers by the pool, cold winters ay the Vermont ski slopes,and think about the Sheffield I knew here in our wide open spaces, not crowded by 55 million people in a place the size of Florida, and guess what ,we'd make you more welcome than you appear willing to welcome an expat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggletail Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 Enjoy it whilst you can, buck - you know your years are numbered:( What is all this 'welcoming' stuff - you pose a question about smoking in th UK - what d'you want - arms open and a hug? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scratchitt Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 I think people should have the right to choose whethervthey smoke or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy78 Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 You do have the right to smoke, that is not in question. However rights do not make you immune to laws. So if a law was introduced banning smoking in pubs, you'd have to deal with it. As we've mentioned you your right to smoke (i'm getting sick of using that term) is no more important than the majority of peoples 'right' to live in a smoke free environment that doesn't damage their health. To put it more simply, you are no more important than anyone else! if 75% of the population don't smoke, then it is obvious that banning smoking in public places including pubs/bars, would be in the interest of most people. Now, if both smokers and non smokers have equal rights (remember, no one is more important than anyone else), then they effectively cancel each other out. So anyone wishing to argue , please forget about rights, that argument is void. So please feel free to refer to the above facts, and come up with a counter argument, that isn't self centred and based on the fact that you want to smoke so screw everyone else. I think the argument for banning smoking in public places is pretty watertight. I still consider myself a smoker and have always held the above beliefs. I just respect other people as well as myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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