lotar Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Hi Shoojiki Our classes over xmas are off, 22nd, 26th and 29th Dec. All other classes run as normal. Hope to see you soon. Have you trained with us before ??? Thanks Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fingercuffs Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 What sort of attack is this!! Best ask soft bob... Second thoughts, ask hard bob (know what i'm saying? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSJoinery Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Hi Shoojiki Our classes over xmas are off, 22nd, 26th and 29th Dec. All other classes run as normal. Hope to see you soon. Have you trained with us before ??? Thanks Craig hey lotar No I have'nt trained you before, Im a member at greens and all ways plan to make it down but never do. I'll try and make it down in the new year then, have a good one. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troyhark Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 To be honest, I don't think many of the people on that video would have been dead - I'm not saying any of them were at an amazing standard either, but they seemed to be able to defend themselves - any violent encounter with a knife will involve cuts no matter how good you are, the trick is to not get cut fatally. Being stabbed in the kidney repeatly, which happens in either the first or second attack is what I'm referring too. After this they still manged to wrestle for a while! Very few of them tried to control weapon, so anything but good defending in my books. The quality was poor and people a bit small on screen to see knife in some encounters, but it really didn't look good for the defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJJMAN Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 it didn't look good at all. Knife defences are a waste of time. Any decent instructor will tell you to always reason with an attacker (if possible) first. However, the only time this isn't gonna be possible is if somebody comes up and stabs you in the back while you're totally unaware. This thread has turned into total crap and should be deleted. Its gone totally off topic and to my reckoning is now just troyhark saying knife defences work to everyone else telling him they don't. I only have one question for troyhark: if confronted with a knife attack by someone who doesn't know what they're doing with a knife and just wants to stab you are you 100% sure you would defend yourself from being stabbed?? I'm willing to go out on a limb and say that any average joe that doesn't know what they're doing but wants to attack me is gonna be left asleep on the pavement with an imprint of my shoe on the back of their heads. I personally think the best defence to someone coming at you with a knife in front of you is a really hard kick in the knackers. I'd also fancy a thai boxer to do better against an armed attacker a lot more than an aikedo practitioner. Flame away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lotar Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 BJJMAN To say knife defense training is no good is a a funny comment to make. John Machado is involved in our association and thinks very highly of our knife training. I train in Thai and BJJ, both excellent sports , but in this day and age you have to cover weapon defense. I have never trained in Aikido so can not comment on there training. I agree this has gone off topic by the way. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crayfish Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Being stabbed in the kidney repeatly, which happens in either the first or second attack is what I'm referring too. After this they still manged to wrestle for a while! Very few of them tried to control weapon, so anything but good defending in my books. The quality was poor and people a bit small on screen to see knife in some encounters, but it really didn't look good for the defenders. Yeah, fair enough, rewatched it, maybe they'd be dead. Maybe I'm not going to pick fights with knife wielding maniacs for a while. I watched this sort of documentary thing called fight science yesterday, anyone seen that? Quite cool. P.S. agree with the thai boxing vs aikido thing, although I'm sure there are amazing aikido people and crap thai boxers too - but on average, yusyus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini_Cooper Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 SO, going back to the origional thread. We need the merits of the individual BJJ clubs in the area, ie which are the best for contests which is the best for people who want to train and not take it too seriously, and which one is the best for people who want a black belt in 3 months. Which one is the best for a laugh, ie, where behavior such as farting is not frowned upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fingercuffs Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Thankfully we are starting to realise that TOYHAWK is the real troll here. This thread was started about bjj. toyhawk, bought up weapons (knives specifically), then i mentioned guns, then toyhawk totally looses the plot and starts waffling about suicide bombers like the insane ramblings of an old man with early stage alzheimers. If toyhawk thinks he's having a hard time, perhaps he should re-read the thread title. I mentioned previously that the only reason i looked at this thread was because bjj was mentioned. When i read it i couldnt believe my eyes because people were talking about knife defences. Whether i or other people think knife defences are a good idea, is entirely up to ourselves. Maybe, if you want to talk about knives, start another thread. It's quite easy. I can assure you i wont even read it, let alone take the ****. i went to toyhawks knife defence class with a female friend the other night. I wasnt allowed to take part because it was a womens only self defence class. I was allowed to film it though. Here it is incase you're interested. I think it's clear to see, he really knows his stuff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut2rra6kq6c So, bjj.... an interclub would be quite a cool idea. or maybe an open mat type get together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crayfish Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Gah, this thread is crap. All the clubs are good, go try them and see which you like, chances are you'll like them all and then you can train at whichever suits you, possibly all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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