CockneyMafia Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 I have always found this a fascinating subject, largely because class mobility, and class boundary, has blurred and shifted over the last few decades. Also, class tends to be arbitrary, as people tend to define it in different ways. Personally, I define it in terms of values and aspirations, rather than cruder measures such as wealth. I also think one's accent and dialect is a very good indicator. That said, are there really only 3 set classes, or has the class scale become fractioned, or even bilinear ? (e.g. underclass, upper working class, new middle class and so on) Is the notion of a class system an archaic one? Is it simply a tool to perpetuate regimented inequality? Or do people like to have a sense of belonging to, or identity with, a social group? Over to the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pk014b7161 Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 working class to the bone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Kiddick Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Toughie Since I have to work for a living and have a job I'm working class. However I only have one debt - the mortgage. And I have enough in savings to pay it off tbh.... Because I'm a qualified professional - does that make me upper working class? I enjoy fine wines, classical music, opera and the like - would that put me into new middle class - or just mean that I 'have class' After all some people will never achieve it whether they are born into money/ title or whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon1 Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 upper class deffo...yah yah..... (sol saunters out the door with a top hat on) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarSparkle Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Toughie Since I have to work for a living and have a job I'm working class. However I only have one debt - the mortgage. And I have enough in savings to pay it off tbh.... Because I'm a qualified professional - does that make me upper working class? I enjoy fine wines, classical music, opera and the like - would that put me into new middle class - or just mean that I 'have class' After all some people will never achieve it whether they are born into money/ title or whatever Indeed. Class is one of the (few) things you simply cannot buy. You have it - or you don't. StarSparkle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppins Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Top Class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 working class and proud, always will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattricia Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Top Class Same here mate, we just cant help it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artisan Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 There are two classes Ruling Class Working Class No one you know belongs to the former We all belong to the latter The so called 'middle class' which so many consider themselves part of does not exist. It is a figment of working class peoples imagination, created by the bosses to make them work harder for less money. We of the so called middle class, are workers who are not low lived scum. Neither are we landed gentry. We are the decent people of the land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Isn't class now defined by socioeconomic groupings. The National Statistics Socio-economic Classification Analytic Classes 1 Higher managerial and professional occupations 1.1 Large employers and higher managerial occupations 1.2 Higher professional occupations 2 Lower managerial and professional occupations 3 Intermediate occupations 4 Small employers and own account workers 5 Lower supervisory and technical occupations 6 Semi-routine occupations 7 Routine occupations 8 Never worked and long-term unemployed Apparently engineering professionals (which is the closest I can find to software engineer) are group 2, sub group 2a. Personally if I had to choose from the traditional groups then I suppose i'm middle class, my background would be from working class though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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