Smoking ban for public places - Opinions

[Cozmo]

So there should be jobs specifically for smokers? For someone so pro-CHOICE it seems pretty divisive. Surely the current situation is better for all employees?

 

No there shouldnt be jobs specifically for smokers anymore than there should be jobs specifically for non smokers, people should be able to choose. And yes the current situation is better for employers, I have no argument about that.

 

Job advertised for bar staff in a smoking environment...Apply for it either way or dont if you object to smoking. Surely your not gonna come back and tell me that the non smoker is negated work if he/she does not want to be in that environment? Surely not???... as the upshot of that is so 1 person can have a job a large number of people have to change their lifestyle to cater for it..ie lose their choice to smoke?

 

 

Im neither pro or anti choice all I have ever said is that I dislike the way that smokers choices are taken away from them.

[Cozmo]

Never ceases to amaze me how smokers become demonised so easily... constructed as some fagan type character who creeps around smoking 50 Capstan full strength per day, indiscriminately blowing smoke into babies faces.

 

I can speak for myself here and say I am very aware of other folks right not to be around smoke/smokers and have no issue with that whatsoever, fair play to people who choose that, but......for those of us who choose to smoke and want to do that in a social environment we should be catered for, regardless of "Whos gonna work in those kind of place" etc etc etc

 

 

And, just for the record......I dont drive a car or motorbike, I use public transport and live city centre, yet I have no choice whatsoever about inhaling motorists fumes, which I am sure are as detrimental to health in general as smoking is...ie global warming carries on and we will all be knackered anyway and wont have time to keep banging on about how smokers are the spawn of Satan!

[jonjo2]

Of course it will apply to cafes. It will apply to ALL indoor public places and work places with the exeption of prisons and carehomes. It will NOT apply to outdoor any public places or to people's own homes or cars.

 

For the record I welcome it.

 

why should prisons be excemt

[Jason Bourne]

Is it illegal to go out on the motorway with your car windows open and children in the car?

 

Only if they're not wearing seatbelts.

 

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[jonjo2]

So I shouldn't go to places as you are smoking. As I said above selfish moron.

You should decide not to smoke if others object to it. You don't have to smoke.

 

lets ban the selling of food in pubs that also stinks and i object to having to smell that so stop eating in pubs

[SnailyBoy]

Im neither pro or anti choice all I have ever said is that I dislike the way that smokers choices are taken away from them.

 

That's the way democracy works, some you win some you lose.

 

In this case that vast majority of people win.

[Cozmo]

That's the way democracy works, some you win some you lose.

 

In this case that vast majority of people win.

 

 

EXACTLY! So therefore the example of a pub or club where the vast majority of people who go in there smoke have to stop so a minority of people can go?

Or so 1 person can work there. I support democracy fully, but as democracy is about the people deciding their own fate then you would think that they would be allowed to cater for all people, so say for example a certain number of places for smokers and a certain number for non smokers, democratic all the way. But thats not the case though, just a blanket ban on all smokers in public which is a far cry from democracy.

 

Someone earlier was honking on about smoking in the grounds of a hospital, not only do non smokers want and have indoor public places to be non smoking, now they want the whole bleedin atmosphere as well. Why not cut to the chase and simply shoot all of us smokers and be done with it?

[jonjo2]

'cos i'm entitled to be able too.

i go to pubs to eat or to socialise with friends & family.

i used to go to pubs to work but after 5 years we quit - surprisingly my "asthma" attacks are down to 1 a year and not 1 a day.

 

if u want to eat go to a resturant not a pub.i dont like the smell when i,m drinking. smoking and non smoking yes. u go to urs and i will go to mine

[SnailyBoy]

EXACTLY! So therefore the example of a pub or club where the vast majority of people who go in there smoke have to stop so a minority of people can go?

Or so 1 person can work there. I support democracy fully, but as democracy is about the people deciding their own fate then you would think that they would be allowed to cater for all people, so say for example a certain number of places for smokers and a certain number for non smokers, democratic all the way. But thats not the case though, just a blanket ban on all smokers in public which is a far cry from democracy.

 

Someone earlier was honking on about smoking in the grounds of a hospital, not only do non smokers want and have indoor public places to be non smoking, now they want the whole bleedin atmosphere as well. Why not cut to the chase and simply shoot all of us smokers and be done with it?

 

Far cry from democracy? even in this poll 72% 'welcomed the ban'.

 

Same result here http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6225582.stm

 

After 3 years it's just now a way of life and I doubt if many people give it a second thought.

[Cozmo]

Far cry from democracy? even in this poll 72% 'welcomed the ban'.

 

Same result here http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6225582.stm

 

After 3 years it's just now a way of life and I doubt if many people give it a second thought.

 

Lol, of course in this poll 72% welcomed the ban, I'd hardly say is a representative number of people nationally, would you? ie 266 people in the sample?

 

The BBC poll that you reference used a sample of 1,200 people, again, hardly representative of a population of approximately 60,000,000, although I do admit that it shows an association. However, the article also goes on to end on a sensible quote....

 

But Simon Clark, director of Forest, said the figures masked the fact that people supported some restrictions but not an outright ban.

 

"Many people are ignorant of how draconian the legislation is - a great many people still think smoking will be allowed in pubs that don't serve food or private members clubs.

 

"What people really want is a choice."

 

Lastly, you are right when you say that not many people give it a second thought. Sadly this is often the case when a minority feel that their choice has been removed, the majority tend not to "give it a second thought"