mossdog Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Strangely enough i have just been reading about the dire situation the retail trade is in.It listed all the major high street names who are either disappearing altogether or downsizing.The industry is putting it down to slow wage growth,high personal debt and impending interest rate rises.They are also blaming rising rents,business rates,parking fees,public transport costs and of course the switch to online shopping.To be honest online shopping is a no brainer,cheaper items ,no travel costs.If i buy anything from a shop it is usually from meadowhall.I love my fishing so i still use local fishing tackle shops everytime though.Leisure businesses and shops like Greggs are still doing well though.........look at Ecclesall Road for instance! once housing then turned into retail units.......now the restaurant side is struggling! Carluccio's did not last long,the old Yankees has been up to let for nearly a year and I bet the vast majority of units on the road are not making much profits.People will get more take aways and 2 meals and a bottle of wine for a tenner deals. I can envisage one day quite a number of units on Ecclesall road being returned back to housing!..........as for the high Streets,they will struggle more and more as online takes more of a grip!maybe more of the unprofitable units will be developed into flats and some into social housing as is already happening. The big boys will stay the course but as for the lesser ones who have rolled on the back of credit and cheap loans there time may be coming to an end! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
area 51 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 ........look at Ecclesall Road for instance! once housing then turned into retail units.......now the restaurant side is struggling! Carluccio's did not last long,the old Yankees has been up to let for nearly a year and I bet the vast majority of units on the road are not making much profits.People will get more take aways and 2 meals and a bottle of wine for a tenner deals. I can envisage one day quite a number of units on Ecclesall road being returned back to housing!..........as for the high Streets,they will struggle more and more as online takes more of a grip!maybe more of the unprofitable units will be developed into flats and some into social housing as is already happening. The big boys will stay the course but as for the lesser ones who have rolled on the back of credit and cheap loans there time may be coming to an end! I worry that the new retail quarter will just become another millstone around the necks of the Sheffield taxpayer.There are loads of empty units already on the moor,as good as the new cinema is and i do love it,is that the last four times i have been to it there was only a handful of us in there.Worrying times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert smith Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I worry that the new retail quarter will just become another millstone around the necks of the Sheffield taxpayer.There are loads of empty units already on the moor,as good as the new cinema is and i do love it,is that the last four times i have been to it there was only a handful of us in there.Worrying times. Another worry is that when many retailers move from say High Street ,Fargate etc to the Moor and new SRQ then will the former areas become an extension of the now abandoned Market area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest makapaka Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 “We are years behind Leeds and Manchester! - our town centre is a joke!” ***£500m investment in town centre announced*** “Waste of money it’ll never work!” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calahonda Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 A good clear up of 1960’s buildings will have to happen sometime, it costs a fortune to keep patching them up. The whole of the Fargate/Chapel Walk building was thrown up in the first place, basements started flooding shortly after they were built, they were full of blue asbestos and are very expensive to heat. Many of the late Victorian/Edwardian buildings are not fit for purpose, most have been converted from far different usage to their current functions, perhaps preserving facades and new building within is the answer, albeit an expensive one. Needless to say, nothing is going to happen anytime soon, much thought is required as to what direction the city centre is to take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzock Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) “We are years behind Leeds and Manchester! - our town centre is a joke!” ***£500m investment in town centre announced*** “Waste of money it’ll never work!” typical isn't it, I think people have this perverse desire for nothing to ever change or improve, it's rather sad and pathetic:loopy: ---------- Post added 17-03-2018 at 22:10 ---------- A good clear up of 1960’s buildings will have to happen sometime, it costs a fortune to keep patching them up. The whole of the Fargate/Chapel Walk building was thrown up in the first place, basements started flooding shortly after they were built, they were full of blue asbestos and are very expensive to heat. Many of the late Victorian/Edwardian buildings are not fit for purpose, most have been converted from far different usage to their current functions, perhaps preserving facades and new building within is the answer, albeit an expensive one. Needless to say, nothing is going to happen anytime soon, much thought is required as to what direction the city centre is to take. I don't consider starting before the year is out 'not anytime soon' ---------- Post added 17-03-2018 at 22:11 ---------- I worry that the new retail quarter will just become another millstone around the necks of the Sheffield taxpayer.There are loads of empty units already on the moor,as good as the new cinema is and i do love it,is that the last four times i have been to it there was only a handful of us in there.Worrying times. there aren't loads of empty units on the moor, the few that are empty are in the process of being filled. ---------- Post added 17-03-2018 at 22:12 ---------- totally disgagree with this as there will always be retail in centres and sheffield fare is very very very poor and this developent does nothing to address this . of course it does something to address it, are you completely daft, how does building retail units not do anything?! Edited March 17, 2018 by Wazzock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
area 51 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 typical isn't it, I think people have this perverse desire for nothing to ever change or improve, it's rather sad and pathetic:loopy: ---------- Post added 17-03-2018 at 22:10 ---------- I don't consider starting before the year is out 'not anytime soon' ---------- Post added 17-03-2018 at 22:11 ---------- there aren't loads of empty units on the moor, the few that are empty are in the process of being filled. ---------- Post added 17-03-2018 at 22:12 ---------- of course it does something to address it, are you completely daft, how does building retail units not do anything?! Are you a council planner?:hihi: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzock Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Are you a council planner?:hihi: Are you one of these people who think that just because someone has a differing opinion that they must work for the council? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
area 51 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Are you one of these people who think that just because someone has a differing opinion that they must work for the council? I only ask because this forum does have polticians,councillors and planners who frequent this forum,its always so obvious.There is one person who i know is definitely connected with the Labour party,they leave some clues to their id.You are totally entitled to your own opinion.I did intend it to be a humorous quip,it wasn't intended to offend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ormester Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I worry that the new retail quarter will just become another millstone around the necks of the Sheffield taxpayer.There are loads of empty units already on the moor,as good as the new cinema is and i do love it,is that the last four times i have been to it there was only a handful of us in there.Worrying times. loads of empty units? the problem is sheffield has rubbish retail compared to other cities a change in the way the srq is going will more than likley kill off a lot of retail shocking decision to not have the retail thats needed ---------- Post added 21-03-2018 at 23:26 ---------- typical isn't it, I think people have this perverse desire for nothing to ever change or improve, it's rather sad and pathetic:loopy: ---------- Post added 17-03-2018 at 22:10 ---------- I don't consider starting before the year is out 'not anytime soon' ---------- Post added 17-03-2018 at 22:11 ---------- there aren't loads of empty units on the moor, the few that are empty are in the process of being filled. ---------- Post added 17-03-2018 at 22:12 ---------- of course it does something to address it, are you completely daft, how does building retail units not do anything?! because when i went to open days etc the main problem was the shops want to come but the size of the units are inadequete putting loads of housing without retail is completley bonkers . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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