Bago Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 If we were doing something wrong, I'd like to think our friends and family would've "put us right". I see you're conveniently overlooking Scoop's comments:rolleyes: Come back when you've got some experience of parenting:rolleyes:. In fact, I am at that kind of stage in my life whereby a lot of my friends are also parents too. I would not dare and dream to say something demeaning and make the mom feel bad about herself and therefore losing focus on her child. I also had babysat my nephew before, and getting him to eat correctly and right is hard. Many young boys are also picky with their food too. They are either meat eaters, or they like their sugar contents once you introduced this to them from day one. A lot of kids are glucose junkies anyway, and that fuels itself. I know, cos I was like that when young, but I moderated myself as I got older. Is it always the parents' fault for not understanding what food or combination of food is better for a person? Is eating just protein good for a child? If we go that far, then how about parents who feed their children "vegetarian diets" or "specialist diets" and not ever expose their children to many food groups and types, therefore not building up their tolerance level too? Has this been looked into? They may be an okay body weight, but their nutritional level may not be "up there" for what they need at that age! I am not overlooking Scoop's comment. She is one person, and that was her views. She see it as "stupidity", I don't. Does the intention of the parent in cases like that not worth anything? So, we are readily to judge others and their kids, but not your own? You feel that it is justified? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High5 Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Thats it my kids are going on a diet fat or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bago Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Lets be right. There has probably never been more support available to parents than there is today. As I said previously, I've got a couple of cook books about how to feed a child a healthy diet. As well as quick easy recepies designed specifically to appeal to children, they offer education about nutrition. I sought this information out myself, one of the books was bought before my son was even born, never mind weaning. Parenting a child is the most important thing I'll ever do. It amazes me that people think its acceptable that a child is malnourished through ignorance, if folks don't know how to feed a child, go to the library and get a book. Sure start centres now offer massive amounts of support to parents who want it. I'm sure that people could find help there about how to feed their children correctly. No one is saying that as soon as child stats to look a bit porky that the child should be taken into protective care (not that thats likely to happen anyway given the shambles of a social service that we've got in this city), but that education and support is available to those families who are potentially harming their children, if they dont accept it, then the needs of the child are paramount and it may be the case that that child may be bettter off elsewhere. Okay, let's put it this way then. Now that there are so many information out there, which bit of information is "true" and "right"?? There is support in terms of information, but there is not much emotional support for moms. How do they know what is correct and what is true? There is a big difference between knowing that the information is out there to reaching the people that needs it. Which had always been social problems in this country anyway. Not everybody knows where to go for the information that they so crave for. You may be a nurse and you understand the information available, but how many people do? I challenged the "junk food" comment made on this thread, and that is only because I have worked in the food industry before and took it upon myself to learn about the whole nutrition thing. How many people will do so and make it their lives? Not many do. If I didn't worked in the industries before, then I wouldn't have known so much about it either. If I wasn't a science graduate, then I wouldn't have known what type of chemicals are in food and what they are either. I do agree with you on one thing. That, individuals do not necessarily take responsibilties for their own lives. Yet, I wouldn't necessarily attack them for it though. I let them make their own decision, since I thought that this is a free country and people can lead their lives how they want it, even though it seems to oppose against how I lead mine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoop Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 In fact, I am at that kind of stage in my life whereby a lot of my friends are also parents too. I would not dare and dream to say something demeaning and make the mom feel bad about herself and therefore losing focus on her child. I also had babysat my nephew before, and getting him to eat correctly and right is hard. Many young boys are also picky with their food too. They are either meat eaters, or they like their sugar contents once you introduced this to them from day one. A lot of kids are glucose junkies anyway, and that fuels itself. I know, cos I was like that when young, but I moderated myself as I got older. Is it always the parents' fault for not understanding what food or combination of food is better for a person? Is eating just protein good for a child? If we go that far, then how about parents who feed their children "vegetarian diets" or "specialist diets" and not ever expose their children to many food groups and types, therefore not building up their tolerance level too? Has this been looked into? They may be an okay body weight, but their nutritional level may not be "up there" for what they need at that age! I am not overlooking Scoop's comment. She is one person, and that was her views. She see it as "stupidity", I don't. Does the intention of the parent in cases like that not worth anything? So, we are readily to judge others and their kids, but not your own? You feel that it is justified? The most important thin Bago is that a child has a healthy balsnced diet. Whether that is meat eating, vegetarian, vegan or what ever els is not the issue. Parents who insist their child will only eat one food are missing the point, it is they that buys, cooks and presents the food. The power is theirs. If I send my son to Tesco's tomorrow, he will come back with bags full of frozen pizzas, hotdogs, chocolate and crisps. Since I am responsible for his health I will do the shopping myself, and if he doesn't like it, he will lump it I'm afraid, I don't just collapse and say "oh alright scoopykins, here have a diet full of crap instead if thats what you prefer." In much the same way, Scoop jr would like nothing better to watch Cbeebies all day on a day like today. Bugger that, he was out with me first thing taking the labrador for a brisk hours walk. I'm the boss we do what I say, not what he says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick2 Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 I hope Parents with FAT kids are reading this and feel SHAMED!! SHAME ON YOU!!! even if they got there kids active that would help, but there's to many idle parents who DONT care about their kids your a disgrace I hope there arn't any fat kids reading this who start to think their parents meant to hurt them or don't love them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meumeu77 Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 I do believe that some people need to be told how to eat and how to feed their children simply because they don't have a clue on what's healthy/unhealthy or do not know the long-term effects of their diets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sccsux Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 I am not overlooking Scoop's comment. She is one person I think you are overlooking the comment Scoop originally made. You said no mums had posted, then one did. You ignored it 'cause it didn't back up your argument. You're now trying to gloss over the fact that the only (currently identified) mother to post on this thread totally disagrees with your opinion. Why are you now not "taking her to task" like you have done with others on this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sccsux Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 I'm the boss we do what I say, not what he says. We do let them "win" occasionally:thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dozy Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 In my opinion if it helps the child it doesn't matter how it makes the parent feel Absolutely!! Regardless of whether the parent is ignorant, thoughtless, lazy or whatever, the fact is that they ARE damaging the health of their child, and it's the child that should be the main consideration. Dozy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathom Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Scoop's right in that if you are the parent you are The Law as far as your child is concerned. However so much now is 'child-centred' this and that that I have to wonder if it's having a bad effect, even right down to breast feeding being 'demand-led' - whereas in the past children were fed at set times - you could still do this now, but it would mean storing the breast milk of course. Anyway, I digress. Kids have fads they also like sweet stuff by nature. But you can make them sit at that table until they have cleared their plate, can refuse to give them anything else until they eat the meal provided. However their pleading faces and tears drive so many parents, who are usually stressed to the gills, to give in. It didn't happen in the past as people couldn't afford alternative food, but people can nowadays with higher wages and lower prices. So they give in. And that's yet another of all these complicated factors! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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