whitehall Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Originally Posted by poppins View Post Don't they do that now ? I thought that was done all over. In the US they give out food stamps but thats all you can buy, they can't even chuck in a tv guide at the check out or a pack of gum, has to be food only. If by that you mean that they have a far better idea of dealing with scroungers and underclasses than we have, then yes - I'd agree. I have a feeling about you Dungbeetle that you consider anyone who is not working, to be a scrounger. I think among these people you consider pensioners. Men and Women who have worked their lives out and are now relaxing in their old age. Yet you respect the affluent who thieve off our country by salting their money away where tax cannot be charged. You have a mixed up set of ideas certainly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppins Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 The Yanks still believe in the Slave trade then? What does Colin Powell hve to say about this? He would say, people like you should grow up, you sound like a real daft bugger to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dungbeetle Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 I have a feeling about you Dungbeetle that you consider anyone who is not working, to be a scrounger. I think among these people you consider pensioners. Men and Women who have worked their lives out and are now relaxing in their old age. No, we need a state support system to help those who are between jobs, look after those genuinely unable to work, and the retired. My concern is that we do not take action to deal with the professional scroungers – who account for half of all claimants and the biggest single drain on the national purse. Yet you respect the affluent who thieve off our country by salting their money away where tax cannot be charged. You have a mixed up set of ideas certainly. Whatever makes you think this? I have stated clearly and often that the tax laws are badly wrong and we need a flat tax rate to end overnight the appalling myriad of tax avoidance routes available to such people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 No they haven't, if it works, stick with it. poppins - you appear to be saying that you think slavery was a good idea here. Is that your view or have I misunderstood you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Dont try to be funny with me poppins, I will rip you up for arse paper And I will remove your insolent behind from SF. Behave now. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyhippy Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 No, we need a state support system to help those who are between jobs, look after those genuinely unable to work, and the retired. My concern is that we do not take action to deal with the professional scroungers – who account for half of all claimants and the biggest single drain on the national purse. Half of benefit recipients are scroungers? From where the hell has this statistic been dredged? Lest it be forgotten, Child Benefit is an entitlement to all with children, and to those who have an income based benefit, is immediately reduced from their other benefits. The Royal Family could claim Child Benefit for kids under 16 should they wish, in law. Those in work receive extra, those out of work, unless it's a benefit they receive having contributed to the NI, don't. Whatever makes you think this? I have stated clearly and often that the tax laws are badly wrong and we need a flat tax rate to end overnight the appalling myriad of tax avoidance routes available to such people. The thing is that tax avoidance would continue even if there were to be a flat rate, and more than likely at the same rate of avoidance as now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyhippy Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 They aren't the kind of hostels I'd provide. So bug infested rat holes wouldn't be where you'd put 'these people'. Precisely what would you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgin Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 i'm looking forward to ann widdicombes encounter tommorow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyhippy Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 i'm looking forward to ann widdicombes encounter tommorow I am as well. I'm pretty sure it won't be reflective of the majority of people I've interviewed over the years and will pander to the Daily Heil crew. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*_ash_* Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 I am as well. I'm pretty sure it won't be reflective of the majority of people I've interviewed over the years and will pander to the Daily Heil crew. We shall see. I have the feeling that I will be annoyed after it. Something about the editting of TV progs that try and annoy people and entertain at same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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