Cyclone Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Definition of middle class..mortgaged to the hilt up to your neck in debt overdrawn credit cards car on tick furniture on tick even food on tick wow i wanna be middle class Definition of class envy - Rotherhamer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms Macbeth Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Definition of middle class..mortgaged to the hilt up to your neck in debt overdrawn credit cards car on tick furniture on tick even food on tick wow i wanna be middle class Actually, its not. People with middle class attitudes are more likely to have old but decent furniture, eat organic food (not on tick), shop around for the best interest rates on credit cards and use them sensibly. They often don't have showy homes, but are more likely to have understated taste, or shabby chic. Oh, and books. The type of people you refer to aren't defined by class! Anyone who believes material possessions=class obviously has none. Where do you get all this bile from? I have to agree with Cyclone in the above post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Personally, I'm happy having no class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 To an extent, it can be state of mind. I worked with a (very politically active) women back in the days of the miners strike, she came from a mining town in the North East, and described her background as working class, but because she had become university educated and now had a mortgage, she supposed she must be 'middle class' and was racked by guilt about it and felt like a traitor to her 'class' I remember from my childhood, my mother rolling about with laughter because Michael Meacher MP had described himself as working class. She knew him well as he had been her dance partner while he was at Berkhamsted Boys Public School. Interestingly (IMO), a look at his wikipedia entry shows that he "...lost a libel action against the journalist Alan Watkins, who had pointed out that Meacher had invented working class origins by referring to his father as a farm labourer (he was in fact an accountant)." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotherhamer Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Definition of class envy - Rotherhamer Lets leave it at that eh,lets just say,in my line of work,i meet them all middle wannabes upwards,funnily enough not many working class,and the people who cry the most ,yep you got it the wannabes dont preach about class to me you never know one day somebody like me may be knocking on your door,and before you start shouting and bawling that in no way is a threat just a fact of life in my business.Thats it iv finished on this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leg-end Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Output Area Classification for England, Scotland & Wales: http://www.casa.ucl.ac.uk/googlemaps/OAC-s I had a look at my area on this site, Half the village is designated countryside when it actually built up. Another area is designated as "constrained by circumstances" and it's all countryside with not a house in sight! Am I missing something?? Not sure mate, its based on work with the National Statistics and the Mosaic classification system. Output Areas contain about 15 to 20 households and the classification will be based on the dominant characteristic for that section. You can PM me your postcode (or just post it) and i'll see what the actual Mosaic application says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code13 Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Johnny Vegas defined middle class as "knowing Rugby League is better but preferring to watch Rugby Union anyway". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leg-end Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 A few relevant articles on the subject matter: We're all middle class now as social barriers fall away (Times Online) Lower middle-class (Times Online) More claiming middle-class status (BBC Online) Class for the purpose of statistics is socio-economic and not about your values. Class to the individual is not necessarily about income, it is about your upbringing, the way you behave, career aspirations, and pride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relost Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Apparently 50% of the population fall into the socioeconomic categories that compose the 'middle class'. However there seems to be a desperate phobia about admitting that you are middle class. Would you stand up and be counted for your middle-classness??? How do you work out if you are middle class though? Doe sit go on where you live and what you earn etc? I predict I'm working class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leg-end Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 How do you work out if you are middle class though? Doe sit go on where you live and what you earn etc? I predict I'm working class Have you read any of the thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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