angle20 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Sorry but your 1960's inference is complete rubbish, I spent my teens and early 20's in the 1960's and didn't notice any breakdown of authority eminating from the decade. We were respectful, hard working and law abiding, OK we liked a new style of music but that can be leveled at every generation. Leave my fantastic 1960's alone and pick on another decade. I agree with you that the 1960s itself was fine. Heartbeat is one of my favourite TV programmes. The point I was getting at, however - and didn't state precisely enough - was that the origin of our present problems was in the 60s. The counter-cultural revolution produced the flower-power hippy generation: the people who have been running the country in recent years. It is these people who have helped to destroy respect for authority and who have trashed our country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crookesey Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 I agree with you that the 1960s itself was fine. Heartbeat is one of my favourite TV programmes. The point I was getting at, however - and didn't state precisely enough - was that the origin of our present problems was in the 60s. The counter-cultural revolution produced the flower-power hippy generation: the people who have been running the country in recent years. It is these people who have helped to destroy respect for authority and who have trashed our country. If you think that Heartbeat is a true refletion of life as it was in the 60's then you are sadly mistaken. You apportion blame for our current situation on anyone who wore a flowered shirt in the 60's, this was just a passing phase, albeit a pleasant one. Start looking at the likes of Thatcher, Heath, Wilson, Callaghan, Foot, Scargill and many more who are either dead or very old now and were certainly not a product of the 60's. There you will find the foundations of our current problems. The 60's were a portal for anyone who wanted to live a life that had been denied their parents and grandparents. Those who appreciated how fortunate they were grew in confidence and would never again fall for the dirty tricks that were played on their parents and grandparents who had been treat as cannon fodder in two world wars. Perhaps a bit of listening to the children of the 60's is in order instead of pontificating over a decade that you have no knowledge of, Heartbeat indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angle20 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Those who appreciated how fortunate they were grew in confidence and would never again fall for the dirty tricks that were played on their parents and grandparents who had been treat as cannon fodder in two world wars. Perhaps a bit of listening to the children of the 60's is in order instead of pontificating over a decade that you have no knowledge of, Heartbeat indeed. Unfortunately, crookesey, the "dirty tricks" are still alive and well, and British lads are still "cannon fodder" - in Iraq and Afghanistan. Btw, I have some first hand knowledge of the 60s - having been a kid in that decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crookesey Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Unfortunately, crookesey, the "dirty tricks" are still alive and well, and British lads are still "cannon fodder" - in Iraq and Afghanistan. Btw, I have some first hand knowledge of the 60s - having been a kid in that decade. Being a kid and not an adult only gave you a very blinkered view of the 60's. The British lads (and lasses) in Iraq and Afghanistan are there because they joined the armed services, they weren't forced into uniform, no dissrespect but it is their choice. You will no more understand the 60's from a child's perspective than I can understand the 50's when I was a child, 'when I was a child I thought as a child', (who said that by the way?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handypandy Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 crookesey >You will no more understand the 60's from a child's perspective than I can understand the 50's when I was a child, 'when I was a child I thought as as a child', (who said that by the way?). Corinthians 13:11..... I'm not clever just googled it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upinwath Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/default.stm Boy, 11, dies after pub shooting An 11-year-old boy dies in hospital after being shot in the neck in a Merseyside pub car park. A witness said the victim was one of three boys playing football when a teenager on a BMX bicycle fired three shots, one of which hit the boy. Wonderful country this is turning into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berberis Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 More on the subject: 'No regrets about leaving the UK' http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6959492.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/default.stm Boy, 11, dies after pub shooting An 11-year-old boy dies in hospital after being shot in the neck in a Merseyside pub car park. A witness said the victim was one of three boys playing football when a teenager on a BMX bicycle fired three shots, one of which hit the boy. Wonderful country this is turning into. Murders per 1000 population: USA: 0.042 Australia: 0.015 UK: 0.014 Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berberis Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Murders per 1000 population: USA: 0.042 Australia: 0.015 UK: 0.014 Source The problem is its not one issue its a whole load of issues that add up to a very unhappy population, and thats why the UK is at no.29 in the quality of life survey and the USA and Australia so much higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 The problem is its not one issue its a whole load of issues that add up to a very unhappy population, and thats why the UK is at no.29 in the quality of life survey and the USA and Australia so much higher. Fair point but I was responding to a post relating to murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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