tomarse Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 i absolutely love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy C Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 And don't forget Sheffield beer festival, 27th-29th September at Darnall Liberal Club! Open 6pm-11pm Thursday and 12pm-11pm Friday & Saturday. See http://www.sheffieldcamra.co.uk for more details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasilRathbon Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Isn't it time the "Real Ale Guide to Sheffield" was updated? I think my copy dates from 2003, and a lot's changed since then..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenfleece Posted September 17, 2007 Author Share Posted September 17, 2007 yes Real Ale heaven.......it always amazes me the history of real ale in contemporary England.....Prior to the early 1960's every pub had handpulls and cask ale, no other way existed to dispense beer. Lager was totally unfashionable and virtually unknown in most of England prior to the 60's, but was a European 'holiday' drink. With the invention of pressurised/pasteurised 'plug n play' keg beer and the electric beer 'metered' dispense system, cask ale began to rapidly vanish from pubs, until in the late 60's it was seriously becoming endangered as a species. Keg beer was king, and the new lager was flooding the market, and the humble handpulled cask ale was becoming more and more specialist and difficult to find. The 'real ale' pub concept had yet to be invented, so you had to put up with that electric metered dispensed Stones or Tetley bitter, or Wards or John Smiths, all from kegs. And thanks to the efforts of CAMRA and other determined people, although it has taken many years to 'turn the tide' of keg beer, cask ale growth has been phenomenal over the last 5 years, increasing at a rate possibly similar to the invasion of keg beer back in the 1960's. Long may it continue, and maybe one day we will even see an end to plug n play keg beer, the majority of which tends to be lager sales. Perhaps when cask lager catches on, which it may do...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Ludd Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 It's just a shame the Dove and Rainbow doesn't have any decent ale..... just kidding! Have yet to sample it myself as yet. I shall visit as a secret drinker. Unfortunately Rock and good ale rarely mix as was most lately proved by a visit to the Broadfield......great band, great range of ales but all in p*** poor condition! So it was back to Guinness How's it happen? How can a pub have a good range and not keep it properly thereby putting younger folks off a great drink? Some real ales I've had recently have been disgusting. It's only because I know what they should taste like that i haven't been put right off permanently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenfleece Posted September 17, 2007 Author Share Posted September 17, 2007 Have yet to sample it myself as yet. I shall visit as a secret drinker. Unfortunately Rock and good ale rarely mix as was most lately proved by a visit to the Broadfield......great band, great range of ales but all in p*** poor condition! So it was back to Guinness How's it happen? How can a pub have a good range and not keep it properly thereby putting younger folks off a great drink? Some real ales I've had recently have been disgusting. It's only because I know what they should taste like that i haven't been put right off permanently. OH DEAR! It's not PLUG n PLAY like keg beer (I can just imagine the face of 'green' bar staff having to deal with cask for the first time in the cellar looking blankly at a Race vent, a hard peg, a cask tap and a hammer, and trying to figure out what the hell to do with them and in what order. And some real ale pubs cellars I have visited are disgusting and not been cleaned for months!! Let me re-assure you our cask ales are all personally managed by me, being such a real ale fan. The cellar is ruthlessly cleaned thoroughly every week, and also washed and brushed down daily especially after changing casks. I rack, vent and tap all the casks, check the lines are cleaned between EACH and EVERY cask change without exception, and ensure no ale remains online after the recommended period (which so many establishments completely fail to check, so their ale is always past its best and sometimes quite nasty).....in the last year using the latter rule I have only EVER thrown away about 12 pints of Spitfire which remained unsold on its final day of being online, not bad considering we shift about 15 casks of real ale a week on average...that's approx 1200 pints a week (excluding wastage and line cleaning) for those of you not in the know. We normally empty a cask fairly promptly once its online, so virtually never have to throw any away. So you can be assured that all our ales will be on top form! If, in the unlikely event, it is NOT, come and talk to me personally and I will be pleased to discuss it with you and show you the cellar if we are not too busy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Ludd Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 I......ensure no ale remains online after the recommended period (which so many establishments completely fail to check, so their ale is always past its best and sometimes quite nasty) I think there you have it! So you can be assured that all our ales will be on top form! If, in the unlikely event, it is NOT, come and talk to me personally and I will be pleased to discuss it with you and show you the cellar if we are not too busy.... Well no one can say better or fairer than that!:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilge Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 The poor condition of cask ales in some pubs is a particular gripe of mine. How dare they sell it like that? Are there no public health inspections on beer/cellars/pipes? Quieter country pubs can be the worst - lower turnover of punters so the beer has gone off before the barrel is empty, but they continue to sell it. Puts people off for life I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Ludd Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 The poor condition of cask ales in some pubs is a particular gripe of mine. How dare they sell it like that? Are there no public health inspections on beer/cellars/pipes? Quieter country pubs can be the worst - lower turnover of punters so the beer has gone off before the barrel is empty, but they continue to sell it. Puts people off for life I'm sure. Steer clear of the Psalter Tavern then. It's sometimes OK but on my last visit it was positively disgusting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tross Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 Agreed Ned ! My last Jar in there was like Battery acid and nearly took away my throat lining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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