t020 Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 Originally posted by Phanerothyme lol t020 you're just looking for reasons to denigrate me it seems - The reason I can zip past traffic on Arundel Gate in the bus lane and read a newspaper at the same time is because I'm not driving - the bus driver is..... Did you honestly think I drive a car and read a newspaper at the same time? You'd be surprised how many drivers do that in the morning. Shave, eat breakfast, etc. Well, maybe you wouldn't be surprised. Nothing is that surprising these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxon51 Posted October 26, 2003 Share Posted October 26, 2003 Scrap road tax, put it on petrol at an amount worked out by average engine size, average annual mileage and Bob's yer uncle. You only use it when you drive, high mileage, big engined cars (4x4 drivers on school runs, boy racers, bentley owners etc.) will pay the lion's share and the poor sap who's car is laid up for months at a time won't have to pay for what they're not using. It may even cut down on speeders, badly tuned wrecks and encourage car sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t020 Posted October 26, 2003 Share Posted October 26, 2003 Originally posted by markham Scrap road tax, put it on petrol at an amount worked out by average engine size, average annual mileage and Bob's yer uncle. You only use it when you drive, high mileage, big engined cars (4x4 drivers on school runs, boy racers, bentley owners etc.) will pay the lion's share and the poor sap who's car is laid up for months at a time won't have to pay for what they're not using. It may even cut down on speeders, badly tuned wrecks and encourage car sharing. But we already pay one of the highest rates of fuel tax in the world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnkysknky Posted October 27, 2003 Share Posted October 27, 2003 Originally posted by markham Scrap road tax, put it on petrol at an amount worked out by average engine size, average annual mileage and Bob's yer uncle. You only use it when you drive, high mileage, big engined cars (4x4 drivers on school runs, boy racers, bentley owners etc.) will pay the lion's share and the poor sap who's car is laid up for months at a time won't have to pay for what they're not using. It may even cut down on speeders, badly tuned wrecks and encourage car sharing. It would also lead to old cars not being removed from the road. If it doesn't need to be taxed there is no incentive to get old heaps of junk off the road - they can be left in the way for free... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomme Posted October 27, 2003 Share Posted October 27, 2003 Originally posted by fnkysknky It would also lead to old cars not being removed from the road. If it doesn't need to be taxed there is no incentive to get old heaps of junk off the road - they can be left in the way for free... True - but it could be made law that you have to display something similar to a tax disc to show that the car has a valid MOT - with similar fines for not displaying same. Nomme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cycleracer Posted October 27, 2003 Share Posted October 27, 2003 Originally posted by halevan Why go to all the trouble and expence of changing the present system? why not retain the staus quo?Why cause innumerable problems for ourselves and making it more complicated than it need be? In the words of the prophet, if it aint broke, don't fix it! Cool Hal, Your right whats the whole point, its not going to make things any better, it will just confuse matters. Regarding taxing those that put more miles in well they already pay for that milage with the cost of fuel they have to put in the tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t020 Posted October 27, 2003 Share Posted October 27, 2003 Taxing the motorist to death is not the answer to congestion. British drivers regularly experience traffic jams on 19% of journeys, compared with 7% in France and 4% in Germany. Britain has doubled its motorway network in the last 30 years, but France on the other hand has quadrupled theirs. We need more roads and we need to stop penalising drivers for using the roads that they fund themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 One innovative idea the Lib Dems had a few years ago was to prevent students from bringing cars into the city when they came to University here. Perhaps they should have extended this to students who actually live here and use their cars where once upon a time they would have walked or cycled. Needless to say when they actually ran the city, albeit briefly, we never heard of this scheme again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidla Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 Originally posted by max One innovative idea the Lib Dems had a few years ago was to prevent students from bringing cars into the city when they came to University here. Perhaps they should have extended this to students who actually live here and use their cars where once upon a time they would have walked or cycled. Needless to say when they actually ran the city, albeit briefly, we never heard of this scheme again. I can't understand how students can afford to drive anyway. I sold my car before I came here because there would be no way I could afford insurance, petrol, tax and maintainence as well as food, books, beer etc. with just my student loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t020 Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 Originally posted by Sidla I can't understand how students can afford to drive anyway. I sold my car before I came here because there would be no way I could afford insurance, petrol, tax and maintainence as well as food, books, beer etc. with just my student loan. Don't exaggerate. Insurance and petrol can be high, especially at our age, but I'd much rather pay more money and be in the comfort of my own car than have to use the awful public transport system. Who knows what I'd catch and who I'd have to sit/ stand up next to? It also saves a lot of valuable time. Its horrible waiting in the cold and the rain for a bus thats always late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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